The question we're posing here has been asked and hinted at throughout the last blog topic, in particular. And then, Annonymous posted the following comment, which I'd like to use as the springboard into the topic of genius and collaboration:
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"Chris suggested, in an earlier blog entry, that we consider our so-called collective consciousness. According to Chris, we all possess and own this entity. And I agree with Chris (and Jung) about the existence of such communal intelligence property (I also believe that the stated fear and mistrust of the concept is real and present in our thinking).Chris then asked, in a later blog, the following question: "(Or) is there something (or some perspective or wisdom itself) beyond ethics (and thus possibly sourced by genius -- or the whole) which possibly enables a more holistically balanced manifestation of genius?”It seems reasonable to (in response to Chris’ question) suggest that maybe the “higher ethic” or “wisdom” is simply the act of considering the collective consciousness before the personal intellect (or genius)? Wouldn’t that create what he called a “more holistically balanced manifestation of genius?”In light of MM’s latest entry, I have personally decided to look at trans generational intelligence, thought, and genius as parts of that greater collective consciousness. Consequently then, knowledge and wisdom and truth about old AND new ways of navigating through this territory called life (and its limitations), becomes a process greatly enriched by ALL contributions and contributors. No matter which generation contributes the knowledge."*********************
In light of Annonyomous' questions about generational collaboration, I'd like to expand that notion to include any perceived barriers that might seemingly separate us and invite us to consider the following questions:
Is the act of collaboration, in a very real way, a surrendering of the ego? A realization that by combining our ideas, talents, etc. with another (or others) we will be able to create something beyond our own immediate ability?
As we begin to consider those questions, I'd also like to clarify a distinction between toleration, cooperation, and collaboration. (I'm slowly learning from MM to be concise):
Toleration: Putting up with (learning to cope) with someone's differences.
Cooperation: Working together because we have to (because circumstances or potential consequences of not cooperating) without being willing to consider giving up our point of view.
Both of these, while not optimum, may gradually lead us to trust more in the involvement and participation of others and thus take us toward...
Collaboration: Proactively seeking out the involvement, ideas, and participation of others because we want to (realizing that not only do we perhaps need to, but that our idea will be better for it, that adding or combining other viewpoints and dealing with differences drives innovation and creativity (in essence it approaches differences as assets).
Because of its very nature (actively including more perspectives than my own and trusting in the inherent value of those additonal prespectives) and the mindset required to utilize collaboration, it seems that collaboration will certainly increase the odds that we are better able to understand the ramifications and ripple effect of our actions.
I'd like to suggest that, while toleration and cooperation may be better than their opposites (exclusison and unresolved conflict), that these approaches do not net the benefits described by MM in their description of how they learn collaboratively, nor do those approaches fully take advantage of the increased perspectives and exposure to the whole created by accessing the intelligence across the divides of generation or other differences (as reflected by Annonymous' suggestion).
So... if collaboration, as defined here, creates a greater opportunity to generate a more expansive thought process (and more lanes of access to the collective intelligence and thus a more potent dose of genius)... and, if utilized with practice, generates a higher level of creativity and innovation (which a number of studies indicate that it does)... what can we do to intentionally be more collaborative, model collaboration, promote collaboration, etc.
(I'd invite us to consider real examples that, without sharing things you deem too personal, give us a more clear glimpse of how we might all learn to better access this modality with more confidence and intentionality.
Lisa Lee suggested that anything that does not utilize this more inclusive approach may, in fact, no longer be considered to be genius at all (but instead, short-sightedness). That's a very thought provoking suggestion. What if we no longer gave credence to intelligence used short-sightedly?
I'd love to hear your thoughts.
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I have to admit that I was pumping my fist and saying "Yeah!" to MM's rant about the broken system. But when I read Annonymous's comment about trans generational intelligence and so on... I felt kind of foolish. I like to think of myself as enlightened, but I got just as jacked up about diss-ing the system as some people do about diss-ing some of the less politically correct groups to dislike.
ReplyDeleteCut to the chase -- you made me think annonymous. Cross-generational collaboration, cross-border collaboration, cross-town collaboration. Maybe it's time we all got over ourselves and whatever our prejudices and started focusing creating solutions together, instead of problems.
Love to you all!
Nice string, everybody. Got me thinkin'!
ReplyDeleteI'm with Lisa. It's very easy to point out that the system is broken, and I think a lot of us (me included) automatically rush forward shouting hallelujah whenever someone says that everything sucks, because we're all angry and uncomfortable with our recognition of that particular truth. But I think there's a deeper context to be explored around that question. It's blatantly true that our existing systems fall far short of meeting the needs of the day, but by that definition, the system has ALWAYS been broken, regardless of historical era. As a species, we have a tremendous evolutionary capacity, and a certain percentage of our population is always recognizing our incompleteness, looking at the existing boundaries, and trying to find ways of pushing past them in qualitative, developmental ways. There's nothing particularly new about that. Nor is there anything particularly new about the fact that each new generation makes use of the cutting edge tools and ideas of whatever historical period they're in while claiming that previous generations are old farts stuck in the past. I believe that's nothing more than the evolutionary imperative voicing its intention to keep moving forward and that is as it should be, but I don't think that's any different now than it's ever been.
I think it's also important to remember that regardless of historical period, at any given time a much larger percentage of the population is assiduously engaged in simply filling up the space in the middle, getting better jobs, making more money, getting more toys, etc. and has no interest whatever in pushing back the limits of our collective evolution. Further, a significant portion of the population at any given time (and I offer the current American political environment as exhibit A in that argument) is engaged in doing everything it can to keep things exactly how they are or even take them back to some earlier period.
Chris' distillation of the very potent ideas presented in the last string ended with a wonderfully subversive question that I loved related to what would happen if we no longer gave credence to intelligence used short-sightedly. In thinking about that, I ran immediately into this question. I think that collective consciousness and intelligence accessed beyond the ego, as stated by Chris, et al, is a great and useful definition. I don't want to be the skunk at the garden party, but what about the collective ego? If, as ego and intelligence are part of individual consciousness, collective ego and collective intelligence are both part of collective consciousness, how do we distinguish the products of one from the products of the other? Collective ego can masquerade forcefully as collective intelligence and often does.
Collaboration has always been my favorite way of working, and in any meaningful collaboration in which I've participated, the relationship between ego and intelligence has always been a fulcrum on which the success or failure of the enterprise has turned. The ego/intelligence ratio of the individuals that make up any collaboration is key to whether the parts ever coalesce into any kind of whole, but even if that hurdle is successfully negotiated, then it becomes an issue of how the group manages, nourishes and develops its own identity. It's the character of that product that determines whether the collaboration becomes a dynamic creative engine or a just another churning mass of lemmings, racing for the cliff edge.
I'd love to hear people's thoughts on this.
Personally I am of the belief that genius IS collective, and so I agree with you – any other application of it appears a bit less-than-it-can-be to me.
ReplyDeleteAnd, I further believe that our egos are our individual manifestations, and seen from that angle, genius could be defined (or described) as the collective intelligence; the collective ego.
Since ego and genius can choose to operate independent of each other, we sometimes end up on the good, and sometimes on the evil side of that spectrum. However, the collective ego appears less prone to degenerate our thinking and more prone to allow evolution and growth, which is why each new generation appears to create its own scope of intelligence and add it to the past generations’ contributions. Consequently, the collective conscious (or intelligence) is endlessly fascinating to people like me.
I am, as you clearly have found by now, a collectivist thinker. I enjoy all of your insights and additions to my own somewhat stagnant way of pondering what Garrison Keillor calls “life’s persistent questions.”.
Wow! This topic has taken some very interesting... and on some level... very challenging turns.
ReplyDeleteI have to say, I was somewhat taken aback by MM's comments and Lisa's concilliatory confession about accepting (and even revelling the recognition) that they system is broken. But as I let my emotions subside and really looked more earnestly at their comments, I came to realize that perhaps many in my generation have been in a form of denial that younger members of our community are responding (or reacting) to... largely in quite healthy ways (instead of literally tearing things down, they're creating new collaborative alternatives).
Then, in reading BKO's and Annonymous' comments about a collective ego (Yikes! I was already challenged enough by the thought of managing my own individual ego) I've found myself reeling again. I'll have to do some more sitting with this notion to get a more balanced sense of it.
One thing appears certain... creating the breakthroughs in thinking and action, that Christopher has listed as the heading for this blog site, defintely requires that we step out of our comfort zone and begin to explore our thoughts, actions, ideas, and decisions on a much more conscious and inclusive level... and though amply challenging... I think that's a good thing.
Yeah... the heat on this keeps getting dialed up to a level that starts to invite us to consider that some of our long-accepted ways of seeiing things may be only one way... or even a limited way of viewing life and the world (and therefore limit our ability to find solutions and see opportunities).
ReplyDeleteSeveral comments on your comments so far:
First, I think the notion of a collective ego is one very worth addressing, because this phenomenon can be incredibly powerful (and, depending on how that collective ego is recognized, addressed, and managed -- or not -- can have a tremndous impact on outcomes). I'd love to hear more thoughts about your experiences with or about collective ego.
Second, I appreciate BV's willingness to recognize MM's, Lisa's and others similar actions as being a collaborative response designed to improve upon things (even if the expressed motivation was, at the surface at least, based on no longer validating the existing, seemingly broken system). Where else might we apply that level of recognition to early stages of change that often appear to be wrong or wrong-headed when they begin?
Third, (and Annonymous I love your commentary and how your mind works, so please take this in the spirit of love with which it's intended and and as a desire to keep our dialogue together as open as possible): I'd like to invite us to consider the possibility that terminology like "good" and "evil" can be unintenionally divisive because of the challengingly relative nature of how those terms area seen by different people and different groups of people. For example the "system" MM spoke of, though he or she chose not to use this term, is referred to by many as "evil" when those who created it or at least those who are working within it certainly may not see it or experience it that way. Might I suggest that we consider using terms like productive/non-productive; expansive/limiting; or inclusive/not in the best long-term interest of the whole, etc. I recognize that there will still be differences in perspective in regard to these definitions, but I think it gives us a chance to possibly move past terms that are historically loaded with a lot of possible baggage. I'm also not negating, by any means, the possible existence of good and evil... just suggesting that for now that is a topic in and of itself. Does that make sense? Am I off course with that comment?
Your thoughts and comments are always appreciated... like BV my mind is being challenged and expanded thanks to all of your willingness to openly share your perspectives.
Just to answer your question, Chris - I am not at all attached to language (or labels) related to any of the concepts we are discussing, so I take no offense (nor do I harbor any other emotionally negative response) to your request. English is not my first language, nor is it my second. I consequently do not think in terms of language, I think in terms of concepts. And therefore I am happy to comply with whatever terminology a group wants to use. :-)
ReplyDeleteHere I go... catching myself in the middle of shooting my mouth off again.
ReplyDeleteMy first response to Christopher's comments about the relativism of good and evil was to think how moral relativism is, to use my dad's term, a total "cop-out." Then I found myself jumping to an example to back up my argument... thinking how the policies of the current U.S. administration are just "plain evil" and that anybody who thinks differently (i.e. my dad and his crew) is just..."
Well you can see where I was going with this... clearly away from my "can't we all just get along comment," in my previous blab. But this is hard... and I feel kind of like I'm floating without a lot to hold me in place, cuz all the stuff I've been passionate about seems like it's based on what I think is good vs. what I think is evil.
Sigh... anybody help me out here? I'm kind of stuck.
Lotsa luv,
Lisa Lee
As someone else said somewhere in the blog or comments... Wow!
ReplyDeleteYeh, got referred to this by a friend of a friend who's been reading but has been hesitant to risk commenting. (I told her she's a genius, but she's not sure). And after reading your definition of genius... she's definitely one as well (so read this and join in Jonnie).
Have to admit, I also came out of curiosity. But the thing that strikes me here is that people are really engaged in trying to sort through their stuff on this blog and come up with something meaningful.
Don't have anything to offer at the moment because the wiring in my head is short circuiting from reading some of this stuff (as a matter of fact, it took me four tries just to write that sentence)... but my only comment would be, it seems like you're all accessing your genius right here on these pages and working pretty freaking collaboratively. So keep it up!
Based on everyone's comments, I'd like to try an experiment in collaboration.
ReplyDeleteWhat I'd like to invite us to do is come up with a collaborative solution to a situation that I will lay out for everyone to solve. As we do it, we can also notice what comes up for us in terms of ego, collective ego, limiting beliefs... and so on.
So, if you've landed on this blog string, please go to the new one entitled, "Collaborative Genius -- an Experiment."
Everyone game?
I'm in. Sounds fun.
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